Genshin Impact Snezhnaya: Japanese Fans React — "Honestly, can the Tsaritsa even beat Celestia? She's just in too deep to back out now"
原神スネージナヤ考察に対する日本の旅人の反応
“Every single nation on this planet is on the brink of ruin lol”
この星の国、どこも滅びそうになってんな
On Genshin Impact's coming Snezhnaya chapter, Japanese players are picking apart the Tsaritsa's odds and the Fatui's home turf. Many love the "fairy-tale nation" vibe and say it actually feels stable — "an old god plus a capable human leadership" — while others note the running pattern that "every nation in this game is on the verge of ruin," and that the Cryo Archon gets written off as a "weak" god by her own people. The big fear: she may already suspect she can't beat Celestia but is too far in to stop, and one reply lands the irony perfectly.
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Japanese fan reactions (excerpted from 140)
- @とまと-f2q👍 303
Honestly the nations with an old god who's been doing the job forever (looking at you, bard) and the one with no Mora actually feel rock solid. They've got competent human leadership too, so there's a sense of security.
なんか昔っから神様やってる吟遊野郎とモラ無しの国って土台がしっかりしてるし、優秀な人間の指導者がいるから安心感ある
- @コーラ炭酸抜き👍 246
That fairy-tale nation vibe? Yeah, I totally get it.
妖精國感はすごくわかる
- @against4168👍 158
Up to now it's always been a nation the Fatui were reaching their claws into, but this time it's finally the Fatui's own country.
これまでファデュイの魔の手が伸びる国だけど今回はいよいよファデュイの国だからな
- @CB-baseball-like👍 136
It's just that Mondstadt and Liyue are rock-solid; basically every other place is half-collapsed. If anything those two are the weird ones.
モンド璃月が磐石すぎるだけでだいたい滅びかけてる むしろこの二つがおかしい
- @jojosp34👍 116
Nod-Krai would've toppled too if Holonbeena hadn't busted her butt. Everywhere's one bad day from falling over.
ナドクライもホロンビーナが頑張らなかったらころんでたからなぁ どこもころびかけてますわ
- @ノエル-i7t👍 99
That said, remember how everyone used to call Fontaine a dystopia with a brutal rich-poor divide?
いうて昔フォンテーヌが貧富の差が激しいディストピア呼ばわりされてたの思い出すわよ
- @怪獣少年👍 137
If the rebellion against Celestia fails, I feel like it ends up a repeat of Khaenri'ah.....
天理への反逆失敗したらカーンルイアの二の舞になる気が.....
- @mikan_cutepop👍 4
Rebelling against the Heavenly Principles has never once succeeded.
天理への反逆は成功した試しがない。
- @heie8r93ir👍 17
There's one nail Celestia hasn't dropped yet…
落ちてない釘が一つセレンスティアに…
- @抹茶-y8i5c👍 23
One's about to get dropped on Snezhnaya as a warning, I bet. We've still never actually seen a nation get destroyed on screen.
@heie8r93ir1発見せしめにスネージナヤに落とされそう。 未だ国が滅んだとこ見た事ないし
- @assabu3127👍 341
Reading the vibe, there's a real chance the Tsaritsa secretly thinks "can I actually beat Celestia? Probably not" but she's already too far in to back out, and the moment she shows any weakness she gets thrown away. Furina stayed loved after everything, but the Tsaritsa might just fall from grace.
この感じだと女皇は天理に勝つの無理じゃね?とか内心思ってても今更引けない状態の可能性で弱味とか見せたらその瞬間に捨てられるフラグがありそう フリーナはあの後も慕われてたけど女皇は落ちぶれる可能性
- @doyomexin0612👍 77
The Wealth Harbinger's line — "what guarantee is there that a god won't fall into corruption?" — would be brutally ironic if the very Tsaritsa he serves is the one who falls…
富者の言ってた「神が堕落しない保証がどこにあるのです」みたいな話、そのまま自分の仕える女皇が落ちぶれたらものすごい皮肉になりますね…
- @mp-fe6vn👍 141
The way the other Archons basically go "the Cryo Archon? too weak to even bother thinking about" is so pitiful it's almost adorable. And meanwhile her nation is THIS close to ruin.
執政たちに「氷の魔神？雑魚すぎて気にしてなかったわ」程度にしか思われてないの不憫で可愛い 国はこんなに滅びそうなのにね
- @黄金裔箱推し委員会👍 20
Once we go to the moon next patch and see all the ancient dragon civilization's relics, it'll be clear — even dragons with THAT level of tech couldn't beat Celestia. So I'm dying to know what plan the Tsaritsa has. The Gnoses are the core of it, sure, but the Pyro Gnosis vanished thanks to Dottore, and I bet that's exactly what makes the plan fail.
次のアプデで月行って古龍文明の遺産をたくさん見るからわかるだろうがあれだけの技術力を持ってた龍たちですら天理に勝てなかったわけだし、女皇がどのような計画を練っているのか気になる…神の心が計画の核なんだろうけど博士が原因で炎の神の心が消失してるしこれが原因で負けそう
- @つららゆき-tpo👍 23
Even if she collects every Gnosis and becomes Ultimate Tsaritsa, you just know Rhinedottir and the Sustainers go "welcome~ if you've got business with Celestia, you gotta get past us first~" and she can't even get an audience.
神の心フルコンプしてアルティメット女皇になったところでロノヴァ、イスタロト、レインドット「「「ようこそ天理に用あるなら私達通してねー」」」で天理起こすことすら無理そう
- @kennaka5817👍 30
"For believing she'd raise the banner of rebellion against Celestia," huh. She's probably gonna get overthrown by revolution before she ever gets to raise it.
天理に反逆の旗を掲げるを信じたため、ねえ 掲げられずに革命されるんだろうなあ
- @袖付き_すろね👍 9
"Unloved by her people" is ominous too. People griping about or criticizing their god happened in past nations — Raiden, Furina — so the fact they're going out of their way to spell it out means something.
人に愛されず…も不穏なんだよな。 人が神に対して不満とか批判ならこれまでの国でも雷電将軍やら、フリーナやらあったからわざわざそれを言うってことは
- @user-tokyostay👍 40
Even after the Archon Quest wraps, I bet there's a revolution brewing in the background like it's a daily commission or event quest.
多分魔神任務終わってもデイリー任務とかイベント任務感覚で革命運動起きてそう
- @抹茶-y8i5c👍 50
Her Majesty the Tsaritsa is gonna get mobbed by the people and the fairies and killed in a revolution. And then some horrifying entity she'd barely been holding back manifests (…) And so, peace returned to Snezhnaya. New quest available at a later date. Please enjoy the intermission. (…) Forgive us… forgive us… forgive us our sins…
女皇陛下、民衆と妖精に寄ってたかって革命で殺されそう。そんで女皇がギリギリ抑えてたやばい存在が顕現とかしそう（…）こうしてスネージナヤは平和になりました。 新たなクエストは後日配信。 暫くご歓談をお楽しみ下さい。（…）許されよ…許されよ…我らの罪を許されよ…
- @月影_oniugat👍 30
that's literally just some fairy-tale nation, isn't it
@抹茶-y8i5cどこぞの妖精國じゃねーか
- @赤帽子さん👍 26
I kinda feel like the Cryo Archon dies during the main story…? And since Genshin has this lore where anyone with a Vision is qualified to become a god, I low-key want to see a development like that.
なんか氷神メインストーリー中で死ぬんじゃねぇかな…？ ほんで原神には、神の目を持つ者は神になる資格を持つ…みたいな設定あったから、ちょっとそういう展開見たいと思っちゃう
- @抹茶-y8i5c👍 11
There's a real chance the Cryo Archon, killed in the revolution, was actually the only thing barely protecting Snezhnaya, and once she's gone the dangerous thing she'd sealed manifests.
革命で殺された氷神が実はスネージナヤをギリギリ守ってたのが、封じてたやばい存在が顕現の可能性もありそう。
- @サンド-c8r👍 29
1:03 isn't this a flashback to the Fae era? The ones doing the capturing aren't human, judging by the ears. The late Fae era got so corrupt that humans rose up, and present-day Snezhnaya is the result of the Tsaritsa and humans teaming up to take the Fae down.
1:03 これはフェイ時代の過去描写とかじゃない？捕まえてる人は耳からして人じゃないし フェイ時代末期は腐敗しすぎて人間が反乱起こすほどだったから、女皇と人間が協力してフェイを打倒したのが今のスネージナヤだし
- @NEKOSAMAnosimobe-q1i👍 4
Those pointy-eared guards(?) are definitely Fae. The Fatui higher-ups too. …So Freminet's folks used to live here. It's a fairy-tale paradise…
耳尖ってる警備員(？)達はきっとフェイなんだよね。ファデュイの幹部の人も。 …フリンズも昔はここにいたのか。メルヘン天国やん…。
- @Fumiaki_kmy👍 100
Factor in that the real Russian Empire had a revolution where the whole royal family was killed (and Tsar Nicholas's youngest daughter was named Anastasia), and there's gonna be a big body count like the Abyss frontline in Natlan. They won't off a playable character outright, sure (that'd hit gacha revenue), but HoYo treats NPCs as fair game for anything (see Rosalyne and the "Puppet").
史実のロシア帝国も革命が起こって王族全員皆56しになってる（しかもその時の皇帝ニコライの末娘の名前がアナスタシア）って背景を含めるとナタでのアビス戦線やらよろしく大量に４人出そうではある 流石にプレイアブルキャラまでは明確な退場者は出ないだろうが（出したらそれこそガチャの売上に関わる）、NPC枠なら何してもいいってところあるからなホヨバは（ロザリンや「傀儡」が具体例）
- @クソニート山田-t1j1w👍 5
It's clearly Russia-themed, and the name Anastasia Feodorovna Snezhnaya means "of the snowy land, daughter of the father who is a gift of god, the resurrected one," so most likely, probably, perhaps it ends in revolution or collapse-and-rebuilding.
ロシアモチーフっぽいし アナスターシャ・フョードロヴナ・スネージナヤって雪の国の、神の贈り物たる父の娘、復活せし者って意味だし多分きっと恐らく革命か崩壊＆再建すると思う
- @user-Shiki.M👍 56
There's already an NPC name from a world quest that lines up with Rasputin, and he's deceased, so maybe — just maybe — there's a Romanov-dynasty-where-the-revolution-failed route (like The Man in the High Castle)?
既に世界任務かなんかでラスプーチンに相当しそうなNPC名が出てて故人になってるからワンチャン革命が成功しなかったロマノフ朝ルート(高い城の男みたいな)も有り得る、のかなぁ？
- @わいやでaaaaa👍 4
The more I learn about Snezhnaya's situation, the more I think the Jester (Pierro) is based on Rasputin.
スネージナヤの情勢知れば知るほど道化の元ネタがラスプーチンなんじゃないかと思う
- @ころ-l3s👍 38
It's like the Russian Federation, holding together by a thread purely on an anti-EU banner.
反EUかがげてるからギリ保ってるロシア連邦みたいな国だな
- @sabatotora👍 118
Natlan's Archon Quest was pretty merciless, so I can't help feeling Snezhnaya's Archon Quest is gonna be brutal too — and it hasn't even started.
ナタの魔神任務がかなり人の心無かったし、スネージナヤの魔神任務もけっこう残酷なものになると、始まってもないのに思ってしまう
- @ウェーーイ-j1d👍 12
Excluding Nod-Krai, the body count just keeps climbing steadily… maybe not Natlan levels, but some kind of huge despair is totally on the table.
ナドクライ除くと順調に犠牲になる人数増えてってんだよな… ナタほどではないかもだけどなんかしらの大絶望は全然あり得る
- @HASHIKI532👍 29
I'm praying it doesn't turn into a shallow "actually she sacrificed everything for all of Teyvat" twist. This game really loves the whole "willing to sacrifice anything for the greater good" narrative.
薄っぺらい「実は全テイワットのために犠牲を払ったんだ」って言う展開にならないことを祈るよ。国柄で大きい目的のために犠牲を厭わないナラティブが大好きだよな
- @月影_oniugat👍 81
They're probably gonna have to pay the bill for everything the Fatui have been doing to every other nation, too.
ファデュイがこれまで各国にやってた事のツケも払う事になりそう
- @たづ-o1f👍 9
Yeah, "that was an individual acting on their own, nothing to do with us" isn't gonna cut it at this point.
流石に、個人が勝手にしたことなんでこっちは知りませんでなんとかなるレベルじゃないしな
- @megan1028👍 46
Come to think of it, we're finally (probably) about to learn what Zhongli's "contract to end all contracts" from the very, very start of the story actually meant…… It's been long…… really, really long……
そういえば、もうすぐ物語の序盤も序盤に語られた鍾離先生の「全ての契約を終わりにする契約」の意味がようやく（多分きっと）わかるのか…… 長かった……本当に長かったな……
- @スメリア👍 6
Well, the chapter's titled "the nation a god does not love," so they're gonna pay that off, huh.
まぁタイトルが｢神が愛さぬ国｣だったからな。その回収すんだろうな
- @たかうじ-l6w👍 9
Ominous-naya…
不穏ジナヤ…
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