Did Demon Slayer Kill One Piece? Japanese Fans Push Back — "Demon Slayer Didn't Win, One Piece Lost on Its Own"
鬼滅がワンピを終わらせた？日本のファンの反論—「鬼滅が勝ったんじゃない、ワンピが勝手に負けた」
“Demon Slayer didn't win. One Piece lost on its own.”
鬼滅が勝ったんじゃない ワンピが勝手に負けたんだ
One Piece fans in Japan turned a viral 'did Demon Slayer kill One Piece?' video into a sharp debate — and the most-liked comments refused to pin it on Demon Slayer at all. The recurring argument was that Demon Slayer is an innocent bystander, that One Piece's real turning point came earlier — when Attack on Titan made 'foreshadowing' and 'payoff' the new hype and One Piece started chasing it — and that the whole rivalry is really a contrast between Demon Slayer author Koyoharu Gotouge's humility and the self-consciousness fans read into Eiichiro Oda. The thread's verdict lands harsher than the video's: nobody beat One Piece — it lost to itself.
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Japanese fan reactions (excerpted from 645)
- @ドラゴンリュー-f1x👍 378
Honestly, Demon Slayer got cast as the 'rival' without ever asking for it — that's a nuisance for them too.
そもそも勝手に対抗馬扱いされていい迷惑だろ向こうも
- @アルテラマン👍 121
Demon Slayer keeps getting blamed as 'the reason One Piece is washed up.' Leave it out of this.
勝手にオワコンの原因だの散々言われる鬼滅もいい迷惑だわ
- @yutasuzu8890👍 68
Exactly. Stop pinning the blame on Demon Slayer every single time.
ほんそれ いちいち鬼滅に責任を求めないでほしい
- @宇宙のすも👍 55
Meanwhile Demon Slayer doesn't care in the slightest and just scrolls right past lol
鬼滅は全く気にしてなくてスルーwww
- @ゆうゆうゆはな👍 285
Demon Slayer might have been the finishing blow, but it had already started going wrong before Demon Slayer.
鬼滅がトドメになったのかも知れないけど、鬼滅の前からおかしくはなり始めてた。
- @もも-m6v5y👍 164
It's been off the rails since way before Demon Slayer even started.
鬼滅始まる前からずっとおかしかったよ
- @視聴用アカウント-c1x👍 336
If anything, I feel like Attack on Titan is what broke it. Once Attack on Titan became the talk of the town, the 'mystery payoff (lol)' and the 'cryptic hint-dropping' got really blatant.
どっちかっていうと進撃の巨人に壊された気がする 進撃の巨人が話題になってから「伏線回収()」や「匂わせ」が露骨になった
- @ぽむ-pomp👍 16
Ever since Attack on Titan dropped, the phrase 'One Piece's foreshadowing is INSANE!!!' basically went to zero. Well, there's no actual foreshadowing being planted, so… yeah, of course.
進撃出てから ｢ワンピ伏線すげーーー！｣って言葉が０になった気がする。 伏線貼ってないんだからそりゃそうだろうとしか。
- @user-fo6sy9fo6d👍 158
Nah, it got boring after the Marineford War made it massive and he started hanging out with celebrities.
いや、頂上決戦で売れて芸能人と遊びだしてからつまらなくなった。
- @髙-j6w👍 14
But it clearly went off the rails once Nika showed up 😮
でも明確におかしくなったのはニカが出てからだよな😮
- @habanero-q8e👍 186
I just can't shake the feeling that Oda genuinely has a complex about Demon Slayer.
なんとなくマジで鬼滅にコンプレックス抱えてる気がするんだよな尾田っち
- @toza4214👍 54
A guy who said 'no manga outsells One Piece, so I don't read other manga lol' gets completely lapped by Demon Slayer, starts fixating on it, and falls apart — watching the collapse is honestly almost an art form.
「ワンピースより売れてる漫画は存在しないので他の漫画は読みませんｗ」って言ってた人が鬼滅に何もかも全部抜かれて意識し始めた結果、崩壊していく様がある意味で芸術すぎる
- @みやの幸村👍 52
His pride must have taken a real hit when the work he assumed was untouchable got overwritten. That puts him below Vegeta — at least Vegeta admitted Goku was No.1.
それだけ自分の作品が一番だったのを塗り替えられてプライドが傷ついたんやろな 悟空をNo.1と認めたベジータより下よ
- @DIO-muda-theworld👍 35
Oda talks like a heavyweight in interviews, but when you actually watch what he does, you don't feel any of that big-vessel composure at all…
尾田先生ってインタビューでは大物感出す発言するけど、実際本人がやってること見るとそんなに器のデカさとか大物ゆえの余裕とか全然感じられないんだよな…
- @rabbit-crosses-shark👍 21
'I stopped letting the protagonist think!' — by the time a line like that got greenlit, he was already ignoring his editor and running solo. So this goes back a long way.
主人公に考えさせるの辞めました！ ←これが通った頃にはもう編集無視して独走してたってことだろうし、だいぶ昔からだよなぁ。
- @真柄游子👍 442
And on top of that, the Demon Slayer author had the vessel to take the very episodes his editor tore to shreds and turn them into the manga…
しかも鬼滅作者は編集にボコボコにダメ出しされたエピソードを漫画に出来るだけの器もあるっていう…
- @irohairi7137👍 154
You could feel the respect for his editor in how he drew it, too — left a great impression.
編集へのリスペクトが感じられる描き方だったのも好印象
- @田中太郎-e2g8f👍 160
Gotouge once wrote, 'Demon Slayer became this widely read because of all of you. You're welcome to go ahead and say you raised Demon Slayer yourselves!' That line stuck with me. The kindness, the humility — you can feel he's genuinely grateful to the readers. We're the ones who want to thank him. That's why I love the guy.
吾峠先生はコメントで「ここまで読まれる作品になったのは皆さんのおかげです。自分が鬼滅を育てた！って言ってもいいです！」って書いてあったのが印象的でした。 文章から優しさというか謙虚さというか、本当に読者に感謝してくれてるんだなってのが伝わる。こっちが感謝したいのに。 だから好き。
- @たなか-q1t👍 84
Gotouge: 'This work (Demon Slayer) is a story I made together with all of you.'
ワニ先生「この作品（鬼滅）は皆さんと作った物語です。」
- @遊TUBE_i👍 92
A stark difference from a certain 'Oda' (said with a sneer) who mistook it all for a one-man achievement 😂
1人の手柄と勘違いした尾ﾐｬｸ田との明確な違い😂
- @もちもちもっちり-c1h👍 97
With Demon Slayer and One Piece, each author's character shows up clearly in the work itself.
鬼滅とワンピース、それぞれ作者の人間性が作品にはっきり現れてるんだよなぁ
- @xxxx-fc9vi👍 46
Of course a fresh, humble up-and-comer gets the praise over a naked emperor lounging on his throne.
権力に胡座かいた裸の王様より、新進気鋭で謙虚な若手作家が評価されるのは当たり前
- @リョウサカザキ-n8k👍 12
At that point you're second- or third-rate. Tezuka, by contrast, supposedly checked everything, and whenever he thought a rival's work was good he'd fire up — 'like hell I'll lose to this!' — and pour it into his own work.
この時点で二流、三流だよね。手塚先生なんて、逐一チェックして、面白いと思ったものに負けるか！ってなって創作意欲かきたててたらしいし。
- @dyd880👍 54
Holding back the first print run on Demon Slayer's final volume so it wouldn't beat One Piece's record — then it sold out nationwide because there weren't nearly enough copies — was genuinely lame. Looking back, that might have been the moment I gave up on One Piece.
鬼滅の最終巻の初版発行数がワンピの記録抜かないように少なめにしたら全然足りなくて全国で売り切れ続出したの本当にダサかった 思えばあの時にワンピの事を見限ったのかもしれん
- @じょこ-j7v👍 117
Demon Slayer and Attack on Titan played a part, sure, but in the end Oda became the hare in the tortoise and the hare. While he was being showered with 'you're No.1,' the people quietly putting in the work simply delivered the results.
鬼滅とか進撃の巨人の影響もあるだろうけど結局のところ、尾田先生はウサギとカメのウサギになってしまった 自分が1番だとチヤホヤされている間にひたむきに努力していた人達が結果を出しただけ
- @靖山岡👍 55
This whole thing feels like he crept up to club Gotouge from behind, tripped over himself, and the club came down on his own head.
これ、なんか勝手に後ろから棒で五峠を殴ろうとしてすっ転んで自分の頭に棒が落ちてきたイメージ
- @セレンヘイズ-k8b👍 95
'Saint' Eiichiro Oda and One Piece 'got crushed by Demon Slayer' — but here's the catch: Demon Slayer didn't actually win. 'Saint' Oda just wrestled himself and keeled over on his own.
尾田栄一郎聖とワンピースは「鬼滅の刃に惨敗した」けど鬼滅の刃が勝った訳じゃないのがミソ 尾田栄一郎聖が独り相撲して勝手に死んだだけ
- @utackle👍 437
He just psyches himself out and flops. Same story every time.
勝手に意識して失敗してるだけ定期
- @山本樹-e6m👍 14
Demon Slayer: 'One Piece? Sorry, I'm a little busy with Infinity Castle Part 2 right now!!'
鬼滅「ワンピ？悪いけど無限城2章のことで忙しいから！！」
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