One Piece Chapter 1185 Goes Into Brook's Backstory: Japanese Fans React — "Isn't That Just TOO Much Hell?"
ワンピース1185話 ブルックの過去編 日本のファンの反応
“Poverty → his nation wiped out → his crew wiped out & a self-inflicted end → 50 years on a ghost ship → scattered and presumed dead at Sabaody. Isn't that just TOO much hell?”
貧困→国壊滅→海賊団壊滅&自死→50年幽霊船→シャボンディで生死不明の散り散り 地獄すぎんか？
One Piece Chapter 1185 finally opens up Brook's backstory, and the most-liked Japanese reactions turned it into a genuinely balanced debate. The recurring theme was a self-aware running gag: the thread's top comment literally walks itself from "ugh, another flashback…" to "wait, Brook's flashback actually goes hard — man, you suffered too, huh." From there it splits cleanly. One camp pushes back ("same one-note pattern every single time," "do we even NEED this flashback?"); the larger camp lands on "this one's tightly paced and actually great," capped by a killer point that Oda is on a flashback hot-streak so good — Oden → Kuma → the Rocks → Brook — that nobody's allowed to complain. Underneath the meta-argument, fans recap a life so brutal ("poverty → his nation destroyed → his whole crew wiped out → fifty years alone on a ghost ship → scattered and presumed dead at Sabaody") that they ask if it's just too much hell for one man, and dig into the lore: a skeleton Brook is heavily debuffed because Thriller Bark established that a strong zombie needs both a strong soul AND a strong body, plus the death-god reading of the Yomi Yomi no Mi. And the sharpest note is an East/West one — Japanese fans roll their eyes that overseas critics are "just reading the free fan-subs and raging," recycling complaints "you could've said about One Piece two years ago too."
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Japanese fan reactions (excerpted from 357)
- @禁垢👍 783
"Ugh, another flashback?" → "Okay the Rocks one is way too cool, this is peak." "Come on, ANOTHER flashback?" → "Brook's flashback goes so hard. Man… you suffered too, huh, you poor guy…"
おいまた過去編かよ→ロックスかっこよすぎだろ最高すぎ おいおいまた過去編入るのかよ→ブルック過去編かっけえ。お前も辛いんやな、、、
- @荒らし嫌いな人登録よろしく👍 65
Yeah, the flashbacks really are GOATed.
やっぱ過去編は神
- @激甘カクテル👍 369
Sure, there are a LOT of flashbacks lately — but this one's tightly paced and genuinely interesting, so I'm fine with it.
確かに過去回想多いけど今回はテンポ良いし内容もちゃんと面白いから良いと思う
- @hnsg6135👍 39
It's short and packed tight, so the flashback itself is fun. Pacing really is everything.
短くギュッとしてるから回想自体は面白い やっぱテンポ大切だわ
- @sujaku1313👍 127
Say what you will, I just love how Eiichiro Oda builds a story. The sense of duty, of loyalty, of comeuppance — it's all rock solid.
いや何だかんだ言って尾田先聖の話作りは好きなんよ 義理人情とか因果応報がちゃんとしっかりしてるから
- @ルネ-i9e👍 49
@sujaku1313 That's ALL it is, though. Same one-note pattern every single time.
@sujaku1313それだけだろ。毎回毎回ワンパターン
- @YOU-xw9il👍 6
For the record, so far there's been zero new info since the Rocks / Harald material. Before the flashback even started, basically everyone already guessed where it was going — there was no one who DIDN'T. Do we honestly need this flashback?
ちなみにここまで ロックス、ハラルドの時から何も新しい情報ないです。 回想始まる前から、ドミリバやろなーって思ってないやつの方が珍しかったです。 むしろそんなやついなかったです。 この回想本当に必要ですか？
- @雛罌粟-q1h👍 180
Say all you want — One Piece is just good. (Heads up: people who can't tell the difference between criticism and abuse are trashing the comments, so be careful.)
なんだかんだワンピースおもろいわ ※批判と誹謗中傷の違いがわからない人たちがコメント荒らしてるので注意
- @お肉-q8p👍 200
A tragic-flashback distilled straight out of Kyros and Kuma is rough — please, Oda, stop hurting us……
キュロスとかくまから成分抽出したような曇らせは辛いからやめてくれ……
- @skyblueacross👍 78
Ever since Thriller Bark mentioned he'd been a captain back in his home country, I'd been curious about his past — so I'm glad we finally got it, but it's just too sad.
国で隊長やってたってスリラーバークで言ってた頃から気になってた過去が知れて嬉しいけど悲しすぎる｡
- @東京テレタビーズ👍 47
Even just from the Rumbar Pirates up to today, his life has already been brutal enough.
ルンバー海賊団から今日までの時点で充分壮絶な人生だと思う
- @vell925👍 49
Wasn't Brook also stuck in a freak-show sideshow after he got scattered at Sabaody…?
確かシャボンディで弾かれてから見世物小屋にも入れられてなかったっけブルック、、
- @クルネード👍 26
Maybe Brook is, like, a death god.
ブルックって死神なのかもしれんな
- @戦艦ボール👍 16
@クルネード The Yomi Yomi no Mi (the Revive-Revive Fruit) is modeled on a death god, after all.
@クルネードヨミヨミの実モデル 死神
- @ねこ.やなぎ👍 161
Thriller Bark already established that you only get a strong zombie when a strong soul has a strong body — so the second Brook lost his body, that's a massive debuff.
スリラーバーグ篇での描写で、強い魂に強い肉体があって初めて強いゾンビになることが示されてるから、肉体無くしてる時点でめっちゃデバフでしょ
- @kyh_tax👍 9
Brook runs on a different power source than the zombies, though, so it's actually unclear whether being a skeleton is even a debuff for him.
ゾンビと動力源違うからブルックの白骨化がデバフになるかは不明なんじゃね？
- @ねこ.やなぎ👍 10
@kyh_tax I mean, coming back as a literal skeleton is already a Soul-Soul glitch state to begin with… but with no muscle, we never see him do any power-based swordsmanship — it's almost all quick-draw iaido that leans on positional energy.
@kyh_tax そもそも白骨化で復活してる時点でソルソルのバグみたいな状態だからな…ただ、筋肉がないから少なくとも剛の剣術の描写は無いのよね、やってるのがほとんど居合術で位置エネルギー使ってるから
- @ソード-d5g👍 38
But look at Thriller Bark — Ryuma fights with a Japanese sword, yet because Brook's shadow was inside him he could only fight in this fencing style, so he was clearly weakened. And that was a corpse, on top of it.
いやスリラーバークのリョウマは日本刀で戦うのにブルックの影が入ってるせいでフェンシングみたいな戦い方しかできないから弱体化してるじゃん。しかも亡骸だし。
- @廣島侍👍 115
Back when this was originally serialized I doubt Oda had the lore this deeply planned out — but the read that Brook fell for Captain Yorki's sheer bigness as a man, rather than raw strength, and chose to serve under him? That's a perfectly good read.
連載当時はあんまここまで深く設定を考えてないと思うけどヨーキが強いってより男としての度量に惚れて下についた そんな感じでえぇやん。
- @チャリオティア👍 7
A captain is basically just the person who holds the crew together. Sure, strong and smart is ideal, but what matters more is the trust people place in you. Charisma > brains > brute force.
船長って要はその船を纏める人間ってだけなんでそりゃ強くて頭の良い人間がなるのが一番ではあるけどそれより人望なんよな。人望＞頭＞武力
- @デリシャスジョージ-b5z👍 21
If THAT's how strong the number two is, you can really sense the caliber of the captain above him…
二番手にしてあの強さ船長の度量伺えるな…
- @クレナイ96👍 1
What's truly amazing is that, despite a life this harrowing, he never spelled it out before — he turned it into cheerful music and comic relief instead.
何が凄いってここまで壮絶なのに今まで詳しく語らずむしろ陽気に音楽と笑いのネタにしてるとこ
- @submarine420👍 47
Oden → Kuma → the Rocks → Brook. It's such an unbroken hot-streak that it never lets you actually say "enough flashbacks already…" One Piece really is just built different.
おでん→くま→ロックス→ブルック 過去編もうええて…って言わせないくらい大当たり続きなんだよな。やっぱONEPIECE強いわ
- @泡沫の匠👍 38
The people complaining online are mostly just folks who only read the free fan-sub translations and worked themselves into a rage.
ネットで文句言ってるやつだいたい無料の翻訳字幕の奴だけ見てキレてるやつばっかだからね。
- @RUIZYAN1094👍 22
@泡沫の匠 Looking at what they're actually criticizing, way too much of it is nitpicking you could've leveled at One Piece two years ago just the same.
@泡沫の匠批判内容見てる限り2年前のワンピースでも言えるという難癖批判多すぎ
- @iiili999👍 15
Seriously. To the haters, all I'll say is: grinding that hard to hate on something is SUCH a waste of your time lol
ほんまに。 嫌いな人に言いたいことは、あんなに必死になってアンチするの時間の無駄すぎるでしょ笑
- @suguru0203👍 20
The Rocks were obviously insanely cool, but Brook is ridiculously cool too lol. If he'd died in his prime like this, come back with the Yomi Yomi no Mi AND learned Haki, he'd have been absurdly strong… though honestly, even learning Haki at the age he actually died, he'd still have been a monster.
ロックス歯ぃ言わずもがなクソかっこよかったけど、ブルックもめちゃくちゃかっこよくて草 この全盛期のまま死んでヨミヨミで復活+覇気習得してたらとんでもなく強かったんだろうなぁ… まあ死んだときの年齢で覇気習得してても強かったろうしな…
- @upper_downer👍 7
Seeing this, it totally makes sense that he could talk back to Big Mom without flinching for a second.
これ見るとマムに一切億さず啖呵切れたのも納得出来る
- @出水-x8c👍 6
Eiichiro Oda, probably: "Yeah, the era isn't about tough warrior princesses anymore — it's about Chiikawa energy (a weirdly high-ranking, pitiable old dude), you feel me~"
尾田聖「やっぱり時代はクッ殺姫よりちいかわ（なんか地位が高くて可哀想なおじさん）だえ〜」
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