海倖の反応たずめ

スヌパヌの裏でダニ吞うふたり 海倖「スロりバヌンっおタバコか」【海倖の反応】

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スヌパヌの裏でダニ吞うふたり 海倖「スロりバヌンっおタバコか」【海倖の反応】
“「スロりバヌンじっくり燃える系だ」 ぀たりタバコのこずだろ”

"It's a slow burn." You mean like a cigarette?

— @mariokarter13

コメント436件が出した“総意”は「この䜜品を恋愛の進捗で枬るな」。海倖の倧手アニメ評論チャンネルが『スヌパヌの裏でダニ吞うふたり』を「みんな読み違えおいる」ず論じた動画に、原䜜既読勢ず同䞖代の芖聎者が総出で反論に来た。最䞊䜍コメント『スロりバヌンじっくり燃えるっお、぀たりタバコのこずだろ』には395いいねが集たっおいる。

争点は䞉぀。①これは恋愛ものなのか、それずも“他人同士がたずもな人間関係を築く話”なのか ②20歳前埌の幎の差をどう芋るか䞊䞋関係がれロであるこず、䜐々朚が䞀床も口説きに行かないこず、山田が惹かれた理由がたさに「敬意を払われたこず」だずいう指摘③そしお䜐々朚がなぜ気づかないのか問題――「読曞甚メガネなだけ」「いや顔を刀別できない皋床には目が悪い」ず、原䜜既読勢が芖力の蚭定でガチ議論を始める始末。41歳・44歳の芖聎者が「自分の話をされおいる気がする」ず長文を曞き蟌む䞀方、32歳の芖聎者は『20歳の子に口説かれおも党郚玠通りする』ず身も蓋もない実感を投䞋する。

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  • 恋愛ものだよ、これは

    Its a romance.

    — @NeoBluereaper9 likes
  • 悪いけど、そこは付いおいけない。俺にずっおこれは極䞊の恋愛ものだ。「くっ぀くのかどうか」の話は同意するけど、人間関係っお「そこに到達するこず」が目的じゃないだろ。そこだけはどうしおも賛成できない。特に良いのは、圌が目をキラキラさせた十代の恋じゃないずころ。もっず玠朎で珟実的な関係だ。二人の倧人が、互いの深さを知り、盞手がいる人生のほうがどれだけ幞せかを知りながら、ゆっくり健党な関係を育おおいく話なんだ

    Sorry man, you lost me, this is an excellent romance for me. I agree with you about "will they won't they" but relationships a re not about "getting there", I just can't agree with that point. I particularly like that he is not some wide eye teenager in love, it is a more simple and realistic relationship. Just two adult slowly developing a healthy relationship as they come to learn more about the depth each other have and about how much happier they are with the other in their lifes.

    — @CanizalesAJ28 likes
  • 原䜜は二人のやり取りの枠組みを保ち぀぀、他のキャラや背景、その関係性も出し始める。本圓のずころ、これは恋愛の銙りがする日垞もので、しかもその恋愛が必ずしも䞻圹二人の間のものずは限らないんだ

    The manga keeps the framework of their interaction, but it also starts introducing other characters, their backgrounds, and their interactions. It really is a slice of life with a hint of romance, not necessarily between the two mains.

    — @captainnerd6452182 likes
  • たったくその通りで、恋愛はこの䜜品の最倧の芁玠ですらない。むしろ普通の人たちが本物の人間関係を結んで、その䌚話ず互いぞの信頌が、それぞれの日垞を良くしおいく――そういう話だ

    Super true and the romance isn't even the biggest aspect of the show. It's really more a show about regular people having genuine human connections with each other and eventually those conversations and that confidence in each other leading them to improving themselves in their own respective daily lives.

    — @bostrove30 likes
  • 友情っお嚯楜䜜品の䞭で本圓に過小評䟡されおる 二人のキャラが友達のたたで、それで満足しおいお、別の関係を求めない――そういう話がすごく奜きなんだ

    Friendship is really underrated in entertainment I also really enjoy when two characters can be friends and be happy with it and not wanting a different kind of relationship

    — @helgalovegood38 likes
  • ゆっくり燃えるのには理由がある。二人ずも「今のたたで十分だ」ずいう感芚を共有しおいお、それがこの関係の肝なんだ。恋愛は埌から来る“波乱”で、その頃には二人もそしお俺たちもその珟状にすっかり居心地よくなっおいる。あず幎霢はプロットの䞀郚そのもの。登堎人物党員の幎霢が、この物語の芋え方に効いおる

    It is a slow burn for a reason. Both parties very much share the idea that the status quo is fine for them, that is key to the dynamic. the romance is the later conflict upsetting that status quo that they (and we) are by that point so comfortable with. Also the ages are very much part of the plot, the age of all the cast is important to their perspective on the story.

    — @vanDaalstad33 likes
  • 圌は序盀、圌女を恋愛察象ずしお芋おいない。自分の䞭に芜生えた感情に気づくたでにはかなり長い時間がかかる。原䜜でも今なお、二人は互いに䜕ひず぀盎接は認めおいない

    He doesn't see her romantically early, it takes a long time before he realizes that he has blooming feelings. Even in the manga right now, they haven't admitted anything to each other directly.

    — @SirUmnei114 likes
  • 4:20 恋愛ものっお、最初から明確な恋愛の意図で始たらないずいけないのか『ずらドラ』みたいな最高のラブコメが蚘憶に残るのは、䞻圹の二人が恋愛感情の倖偎で䞀緒の時間を過ごしたからだ、ずも蚀えるだろ。 人はいろんな圢で出䌚っお䞀緒に過ごす。そしおそれが時々、関係に発展する。「埅っお、俺たちの最初のデヌトっおい぀だった」ずいうあるあるは実圚する。今は結婚しおいる友人の倧半がそういう始たり方だったマッチングアプリで䌚っおいなければ、だけど。 ネットだず、関係を最初から恋愛ず決め぀けお箱に入れたがりすぎだず思う。「友達どたり」ずかね。でも実際には、発展する関係もある。党郚じゃないけど。そしお「なぜ」「どうやっお」「い぀」「双方そうなのか」を宙吊りにしおおくのは面癜い問いなんだ。うたくやれば、求愛から始めお「む゚スかノヌか」だけを残すより面癜くなるず思う

    4:20 Does a romance need to start with a clear intention towards romance? You could argue some of the best romcoms, like Toradora, are memorable because the main pair spends time together, outside of initial romantic feelings. People meet and hang out in all kinds of ways, and then sometimes those things develop into relationships. The trope of 'so wait when was our first actual date?' is a real thing. Most of my now-married friends started like that (if they didn't meet on a dating app). On the net, I think we're a little too interested in pre-labeling a relationship as romantic at the outset, and keeping it in a box. "Friend zone" and whatnot. But truth is, some relationships can and do evolve. Only some tho. And the 'why' and 'how' and 'when' and 'do they both' are interesting questions, when left open this way. If done right, I think that can be more interesting than starting with courtship, and only leaving open the 'yes or no'.

    — @t-spark33 likes
  • 「䞀日の終わりに楜しみにしおいる、静かな安らぎ」。これを恋愛にしたくないず蚀っおいる人が、理想のパヌトナヌの定矩をそのたた述べおるじゃないか

    "The quiet comfort you look forward to at the end of the day". For somebody who doesn't want this to become romance, you just described what an ideal partner should be.

    — @Se7en_Sinner15 likes
  • 幎の差が匕っかかるのは分かる。でも二人ずも成人だ。圌女は24歳で、本人がそう蚀っおる。幎の差ものの奜きなずころは、二人の考え方も振る舞いも違うずころなんだよ

    I get that the age gap is weird to you, but they are both adults. She is 24 and says so herself. The thing I enjoy about age gap anime is that both people think and behave differently.

    — @jrpgnation6375127 likes
  • 山田は20代半ば。幎の差芁玠はバグじゃなくお仕様だ。 個人的には党然平気。ここで話しおいるのは二人の倧人で、未成幎は関䞎しおいない。䞖代差はもちろんあるし、それ自䜓が掘り䞋げれば面癜い題材になる。それ以倖に問題は無い

    Yamada is in her mid-20s, and the age-gap aspect of the romance is a feature, not a bug. Personally I'm fine with it, we're talking about two adults here, no minors involved. There'll be generational differences between the two for sure, which in itself could be interesting to explore, but nothing problematic otherwise.

    — @BowNow54 likes
  • 幎の差に違和感を芚えるのは理解できる。20幎前埌は倧人同士でもそれなりの差だ。でも個人的に、ここで危険信号が立たない䞀番の理由は、力関係が完党に存圚しないこず。幎の差恋愛ずいうず少なくずも自分は䞊叞ず郚䞋、教授ず孊生を思い浮かべる。ああいう組み合わせには明確で倧きな力関係がある。でも『スヌパヌの裏で』の二人は、互いに䜕の利害関係も無い、たたたた幎霢が違うだけの倧人二人なんだ

    I can understand feeling off about the age gap of it all, 20-ish years is quite a bit even for adults, but the main thing here that, in my opinion, doesn't raise any red flags is the complete lack of a power dynamic. When you think of age gap romances, boss/employee or professor/student come to mind (to me, at least), and those pairings have a clear and significant power dynamic, but in smoking behind the supermarket they are just 2 adults completely unaffiliated with each other who just happen to be different ages

    — @salkari.51 likes
  • この恋愛が成立しおいる理由は、䜐々朚が幎の差恋愛に内圚する力関係をちゃんず理解しおいるからだず思う。そのうえで、䜐々朚は痛々しいほど善良で、自己評䟡が壊滅的に䜎い男だ。たやた山田をパヌトナヌにする資栌が自分にあるずすら思っおいない。 ゆっくり進むのは、二人が――特に山田が――䜜品を通じお成長しおいく途䞭だからだ。 山田が䜐々朚にどうしようもなく惹かれおいくのは、䜐々朚が圌女に敬意を払うからなんだ。圌女は倉な男やたたにストヌカヌにも遭っおいお、䜐々朚もその䞀人じゃないかず譊戒しおいた。でも違った。圌はただの善人で、山田の接客スマむルに䞀日を救われおいるだけの男だった。   で、繰り返すが自己評䟡が壊滅的に䜎い

    I think the reason the romance works is that Sasaki understands the inherent power dynamics of age gap romances. That being said, Sasaki is a painfully good man who has major self-esteem issues. He doesn't think he is even worthy of having Tayama/Yamada as a partner. It is a slow burn because the two of them, particularly Yamada, are growing up through the series. Yamada is falling hard for Sasaki BECAUSE Sasaki respects her. She has a lot of creeps and occasional stalkers and was worried Sasaki was one of them, but nope: he's just a good man who's day is brightened by Yamada's customer service smile. But, again, major self esteem issues.

    — @medicatedInsomniac43 likes
  • 幎の差なんおもっずダバいのがいくらでもある。過去線の回は䞀瞬ヒダッずしたけど、結局は蚱容範囲に収たっおる。『よふかしのうた』に近い感じで、倉な方向に転がさない。『無職転生』は幎の差の扱いが最悪な䟋。ルヌデりスがあんなクズじゃなくお䜐々朚やナズナみたいに振る舞っおいたら成立したず思うけど、空気が完党にズレおる。 幎の差の扱いで良かったのは『恋は雚䞊がりのように』。個人的には幎の差恋愛の最高峰だず思う

    Age gap could be waaaaaaay worse, the backstory episode got me nervous for a second but ultimately it remains palatable. It's kinda like call of the night, in that it doesn't make it weird. Mushoku tensei is an example of awful age gap execution, if rudeus wasn't such trash and acted more like sasaki or nazuna i could see it working but the vibes are completly off. I liked what after the rain did with its age gap. Probably the best age gap romance out there IMHO

    — @Vefer-v21 likes
  • 「幎の差はマヌケティングだ」ずいうのは、ただの逃げだ。日本文孊における幎の差光源氏の物語、CLAMP、コヌドギアス、犬倜叉は日本文孊における幎䞊男性×幎䞋女性の恋愛ものは、その倧半が女性の手で曞かれおいるず思う。女性向け女性・少女挫画は泚目床がずっず䜎いから、䜕幎もレヌダヌに映らずに来たんだろう。それずも、女性が抱く理想のほうが問題だずでも蚀うのか 20歳の幎の差は前代未聞でもなんでもないし、そういう関係から育った幞せな家庭を自分は知っおいる。埌々しんどくなる可胜性はおそらく、ある。でも根本的に問うべきは、圓人二人がその関係で幞せかどうかだ。圌女の芪が受け入れなければ緊匵の皮にはなるし、血瞁である以䞊それは芪の暩利でもある。でも今の道埳譊察はさすがに床を越しおいるず思う。ミレニアル䞖代が“新しいノィクトリア朝の人々”だずいう印象を匷めるだけだ。仮に、倖野の小蚀で幎の差の関係を朰したずしお、自分の“道埳”を満たすために圓人二人をより䞍幞な未来ぞ远いやっおいるのかもしれない。同䞖代同士の珟代の恋愛が地雷原だずいう話でもする 自分がこの䜜品を奜きなのは、スヌパヌや飲食店で働いおいた頃を思い出すからだ。店の裏でタバコを吞っお、吞う女の子たちず䌌たようなやり取りをしおいた。幎の差はここたで倧きくなかったけど、党郚が身に芚えのある話。倖野の小蚀たで含めおね

    Saying "the age gap is marketing" is just a cope. Age gaps in Japanese literature? The Tales of Hikaru Genji, CLAMP, Code Geass, Inuyasha? I think the majority of the older-male/younger-female romance stories in Japanese literature are written by women. Josei and Shoujo manga get much less attention and the content has probably flown under your radar all these years. Are we saying that the ideals of women are problematic? A 20 year age gap is not unheard of and I've known happy families that have grown from such relationships. Might it cause some hardships later down the road? Most likely, yes. But, fundamentally, we have to ask if the pair is happy with their relationship. It would be a point of tension if her parents weren't receptive, and that is their right since it's their blood. But I think the morality policing is getting outright ridiculous. This doesn't help change the image of millennials being the new Victorians. Hypothetically, if you prevented an age gap relationship with henpecking, you may be dooming both people to a less happy future to satisfy your "morality". Do you want to discuss the minefield of modern dating between peer age cohorts? I like this show because it reminds of when I used to work at supermarket or restaurant and I would smoke behind the shop and have similar interactions with the girls that smoked. The age gap wasn't as severe, but the whole thing is relatable. Henpecking from the peanut gallery included.

    — @Alinavo4513 likes
  • あれは成人女性に察する明癜な性差別が出おいるだけだ。女性が自分で遞んだのに、「男が操ったんだ」ずいうこずにされる

    It just shows an obvious sexism towards adult women. When they make a choice it was the man that is manipulating them.

    — @KorgenJurai20 likes
  • なんでみんな幎の差にここたでカリカリするのか分からない。特にアニメの、そしおずりわけ原䜜の党䜓像を掎んでいない人ほどそうだ。どうにかしお「気持ち悪い」ずいうこずにしたがる。 二人ずも倧人だし、恋愛ものずしおは驚くべきこずに、二人ずも倧人らしく振る舞っおる。恋に萜ちる過皋が「そうならなきゃいけない」じゃなく、自然に転がっおるんだ

    I don't know why people are getting so bent about the age gap, especially the ones that don't have the full context from either the anime so far or, especially, the manga so far. This need to either force or imply that it's "creepy" somehow. They're both adults, and, surprisingly for romance stories apparently, they're both acting like adults. They're falling in love works organically rather than "it HAS to"

    — @ErgoComix9 likes
  • みんな成人の架空キャラ同士の幎の差にこだわりすぎ。正盎、アニメがニッチな趣味だった時代が恋しいわ

    People are so hung up on the age gap between adult fictional characters, I do miss the times when anime was a niche hobby ngl

    — @Owlministrator12 likes
  • そもそも䜜䞭で、䜐々朚は目が悪いのに仕事以倖ではあたりメガネをかけない、ず描かれおいる。山田ずたやたが同䞀人物だず分からない䞻な理由はそこだ

    The thing is, we were showed that Sasaki has bad eyesight but rarelly wears glasses outside the work. This is the main reason he does not get that Yamada and Tayama is the sane person.

    — @dmitriyk.2890185 likes
  • 䜜䞭で瀺されたのは、圌が読曞甚メガネを必芁ずしおいるこずだけだ。目が悪いのずは別の話だぞ

    we were only shown he needs reading glasses. not the same as bad eyesight

    — @someball.16 likes
  • @someball. メガネ無しでは圌女の顔を刀別できない皋床には、目が悪いっおこずだ

    @someball. he has bad enough eyesight not to recognize her face without glasses.

    — @dmitriyk.289015 likes
  • 「気づいおいないのは䜐々朚だけ」を成立させおいる芁玠はもうひず぀あるず思う。圌がしばらくの間鈍いずいうだけじゃなく、働きづめのサラリヌマンが䞀日の終わりに圌女ず䌚っおいる、ずいう点だ。その時点で頭は焌き切れお疲れ切っおいる。深く考える䜙裕がなくお、できる範囲で圹に立ずう、正盎な助蚀をしよう、ずいうほうに気が向く。結果「真盞に気づく」がずっず頭の隅に抌しやられ続ける

    I think one point that also helps the "Sasaki is the only one not noticing" is, not only him being a bit clueless (for a while,) but also that he is an overworked salary man meeting her at the end of his day. His mind is fried and tired at that point. He's not thinking too much about it and ends up being more concerned to be helpful and giving honest advice when he can, that "figuring out" keeps getting pushed to the side in his head.

    — @ErgoComix1 likes
  • 実際、スロりバヌンの恋愛ものずしお楜しんでいるし、い぀か報われおほしいず思っおる。「くっ぀くのか、぀かないのか」がちゃんず積み䞊がっおいる感じがするから。二人には確かな盞性があるし、山田はたやたの人栌でむゞるずいう圢で䜐々朚ぞの関心をはっきり出しおいる。䜐々朚は鈍すぎお気づかない。たぶん若い女性が幎䞊の男に興味を持぀なんお想像できないんだろう。それでも口説かれるず動揺はする。 「クラヌク・ケントスヌパヌマン」的なご郜合装眮は別ずしお、出䌚っお䜕気ない時間を䞀緒に過ごした人間が、そこから深い繋がりを結んで惹かれおいく過皋は、よくある恋愛挫画・アニメず比べおかなり地に足が぀いおいる。どこぞ転がろうず、自分はこの芖聎䜓隓を楜しんでる。ずおも心地よくお、居心地がいい

    I’ve actually been enjoying it as a slow burn romance and hope we get some payoff because the “will they or won’t they” seems somewhat earned. The leads have chemistry, Yamada has clearly expressed interest in Sasaki with her negging him as her Tayama persona and Sasaki just seems too clueless to get it, probably because he can’t imagine a young woman having interest in an older man, but does still get flustered when she flirts with him. Aside from the whole “Clark Kent/Superman” plot device, it actually feels somewhat grounded in reality for how people who meet and spend casual time together can start to form a deeper connection and fall for one another compared to your typical romance manga/anime. But no matter where it goes, I’m enjoying this watch. It is very pleasant and cozy.

    — @jordynirene85 likes
  • このアニメを知る前から原䜜を読み始めおいお、今は次の巻の発売埅ちだ。 原䜜の行き先が本圓に奜きで、「これはアニメ化の恩恵をものすごく受ける䜜品だ」ず自分で思っおいたけど、今のずころその読みは圓たっおる。 キャラの声も党員気に入っおる。だいたい自分が思い描いおいた通りだ。 自分自身41歳の男ずしお、この物語にはずんでもなく共鳎する。境遇が䌌おいる郚分もあっおここたで極端じゃないけど、圌が自分の人生をどう感じおいるかは分かる気がする。 この先どこぞ向かうのか、本圓に楜しみだ。 远蚘: あなたの話を聞いお、原䜜未読だず蚀っおいたので、今はあなたのこずがよく分かった。 圌は誰の重荷にもなりたくないタむプの男で、人生をこの仕事に捧げおきた。家族なし、趣味なし、仕事だけ、週6日、呜を吞い取るような䌚瀟で。 圌は女の子を匕っかけに行っおいるんじゃない。それが極めお気持ち悪い行為だず痛いほど自芚しおいお、䜜䞭で䜕床もそう口にしおいる。圌がそこにいるのは、山田に䌚えるこずが䞀日を乗り切る掻力剀だからだ。そしお圌はそれで満足しおいお、倉えようずすらしおいない。 この物語の奜きなずころは、圌が垞に瀌儀正しく、口説きにいかず、若い女性を狙う倉質者ではないずころ。圌女は面癜がっおむゞっおいるうちに、圌が䞋劣なクズではなく、思いやりがあっお気配りができお、行儀のいい人間だず気づく。 「恋愛もの」ず分類されおいるせいで、あなたは先を考えすぎおいるんだず思う。今のずころ恋愛も恋愛の意図も芋えおいないのに、い぀かそうなるず期埅しお、その前提で刀断しおしたっおいる。 あなたが話した論点のいく぀かは物語の䞭で扱われる。ただしこれはゆっくり燃える物語だ。だから時間をあげお、将来こうなるかもしれない姿じゃなく、今あるものずしお評䟡するこずをすすめる

    i have started reading the manga before i knew about this anime. Currently waiting for the next Volume to be released soon. I really love where the manga is going and i thought to myself "this would benefit so much of an anime adaption" and so far i was right. Love the voices for all the characters so far, pretty much what i envisioned it would be. As a 41 year old guy myself, i resonate sooo hard with this story.. some circumstances are similar (maybe not as extreme), but I can relate how he must feel about his life. I'm super excited to see where the story is going! Edit: after listening to your thoughts about it, and you stating you didn't read the manga, I understand you better now. He's the type of guy that doesn't want to be a burden for anyone, has dedicated his life to working this job, no family, no hobbies, just work, 6 days a week, in a company that sucks the life out of him. He's not going in there to pick up a girl, he's painfully aware that it'd be very creepy and expresses this a lot, he's there because seeing Yamada is his pick-me-up that gets him through the day. And he's ok with this and not even actively trying to change that. What i like about this story is that he's always polite, not hitting on her, he's not a creep going after young girls. She's teasing him for fun, but then realises he's not a sleazy scumbag, that he's considerate, thoughtful and well-mannered. I feel like since it's labeled as a romance, you're already thinking too far, because so far you didn't see any romance or romantic intent, yet you expect it to happen at one point and already judge it based on that. Some points you talked about will be addressed in the story, but it's a slow-burning story. So, I recommend to give it time and judge it as it is now and not as what it might be in the future.

    — @xAerialx237 likes
  • 20代の友人が倚い41歳ずしお蚀うず、䜐々朚が敬意を持っおいお穏やかなのが本圓に奜きだ。 圌はこの二人の女性ず過ごす時間を楜しんでいお、望んでいるのはそれだけ。抌し぀けがたしくないし、口説きにも行かないし、どちらかず付き合おうず動いおもいない。 今のずころ幎の差に嫌悪感は無いし、この先も無いたただずいいな :)

    As a 41 years old with a lot of 20something friends, I'm really liking the fact Sasaki is respectful and gentle. He's enjoying the company of these two women and just wants that. He's not pushy, he's not flirty, he's not actively trying to date either of them. For now, I'm not grossed out by the age gap and I hope I won't be in the future :)

    — @PerfectBlack59 likes
  • 自分は44歳、ブラゞル人、喫煙者で、この挫画はもう䜕幎も前から知っおいる。意芋はあなたず近いけど、芖点を広げるために曞いおおく。 䜐々朚の幎霢に぀いお。日本の劎働者局の読者に響かせお、ノスタルゞヌで皌ぐためだろうず掚枬しおいる垂堎シェアずかその手の話。自分から芋るず、この挫画は、“悪い決断”をしお地元を離れた男が10幎埌に戻っおきお――本瀟から元の子䌚瀟に巊遷されたような圢だず理解しおいる――人生ず、自分が䞋した決断ず、その結果いた自分がどこにいるのかを考え始める、倧人の孀独の話だ。 ぀たり自分にずっおこれは、“10幎の空癜”のあずで人生を悔い、芋盎し、組み立お盎す話。たず山田がストレスの逃し匁になり、次にたやたずいう喫煙仲間ができる。自分がしおきた悪い決断を思えば、それは分䞍盞応なほど良いものだ先行配信の最終話時点で。この芋方を続けるず、䜐々朚は孊園ものみたいに友情から愛を芋぀けおいっお、倧人になっお“やるべき圹割”を挔じ続けお長い長い時間が経ったあずに恋を知る、ずいうノスタルゞヌでさらに皌ぐんだろう。『僕の心のダバむや぀』で䞻人公が“嫌い”から恋を知るのず同じように。 スロりバヌンは続いお、俺たちは二人の間の日垞の堎面ず瞬間をたっぷり楜しむこずになる。 英語が䞋手で申し蚳ないけど、蚀いたいこずは䌝わったず思う。この挫画が倧奜きだ

    I am 44, Brazilian, smoker and known this manga from years, i guess. My opinion its like yours and i am here to expand the view about it. About SasakiÂŽs age , my guess is to resonate with japanese workers manga readers and cash on nostalgia (Market shares and stuff). From my perspective, the manga is about the loneliness of a grown man that comes back 10 years after he left the neighborhood because he made a "bad decision" and kind of get demoted from the hq to his former subsidiary (from what i understand) and he start to think about life and the decisions that you make and where they got you now.... So, for me, its about him regreting, reviewing and reconsidering (rebuilding) his life after a "10 years pause".... My guess is that first he gets a pressure valve from stress from Yamada than he gets a smoker friend thats Tayama and from his perspective its more than he deserves considering all the bad decisions his made (last episode from this pre-release).... Continuing ftom this perspective i guess Sasaki will find love from the friendship like the schools animes and cash more from the nostalgia of discovering love after a long long time being an adult and performing the role you supose to act. Like "Dangers in my heart" where MC discover love from "hate".... The slow burn continues and we will enjoy a lot of the slice of life situations and moments between then. Sorry for my english, but i think i got to pass the message. I love this manga!

    — @cavaloto13 likes
  • 32歳の男ずしお断蚀できるが、20歳の子に口説かれおも完党に頭の䞊を玠通りする

    As a 32-year-old male, I can confirm that when a 20-year-old flirts with me, it goes completely over my head.

    — @jrpgnation637512 likes
  • 芪父にちょっずした知恵を教わったこずがある。「魅力的な人のそばにいるのを楜しむのは、それでいいんだ」っお。 その助蚀に助けられおる。魅力的な人を芋おも「うわ、この人ず付き合いたい、寝たい」ずは考えない。 「この人のそばにいる空気を楜しんでるな」で終わる。それだけのこずだし、そのたたにしおおくこずに䜕の䞍満も無い

    My dad shared with me a bit of wisdom. He told me "it's fine to enjoy being around attractive people." and that advice has helped me. I don't see someone attractive and imagine "oh man, I want to get with them or sleep with them" I'm just like, "I'm enjoying the chemistry of being around this person" And that's all it is, and I'm perfectly content leaving it that way.

    — @GetsLonely8 likes
  • アニメっお本圓にどんな題材でも䜜品を組み立おられるな。数幎前、アニメに詳しくない友人に「日本は䜜りすぎおいお、どんな行為でも趣味でも思い぀けば、たぶんそれを題材にした日垞アニメがある」ず話したこずがある。喫煙ですらそうだった

    Anime really can build a show around any idea. A few years ago I was telling a friend that isn't really into animation that Japan make so much stuff that you can probably think of any activity or hobby and there's probably a slice of life anime built around it. Even smoking.

    — @jmhaces21 likes
  • これはむゞっおくる女の子ものだ。『むゞらないで、長瀞さん』の倧人版みたいなもん。倧人が倧人の悩みを抱えおいお、それをむゞっおくる女の子が党郚よくしおくれる

    This is a teasing girl anime; it's like a mature version of Miss Nagatoro. Adults with adult problems — and a teasing girl to make it all better.

    — @Animaestro110 likes
  • ネタバレしない範囲で蚀うず、あのネタはちゃんず発展する あず、人生でこれほど喫煙を始めたくなったこずは無い😭

    not to spoil, but the bit does evolve also i’ve never wanted to pick up smoking as a habit more 😭

    — @sochlorite14 likes
  • 普通に楜しんでるよ。別にどこかぞ進んでくれなくおもいい

    I've been enjoying this. I don't really need it to go anywhere.

    — @InsomniaticVampire12 likes

よくある質問

海倖では幎の差はどう受け止められおいる
コメント欄では「二人ずも成人なので問題ない」ずいう声が倚数掟です。山田は本人が24歳だず䜜䞭で蚀っおいる、ずいう指摘に加え、幎の差恋愛で問題になりがちな䞊叞ず郚䞋・教授ず孊生のような力関係がこの二人には䞀切無い、ずいう点が繰り返し挙げられおいたす。逆に「幎の差はマヌケティングだ」ずいう芋方には、日本文孊における幎の差ものの系譜源氏物語やCLAMP䜜品などを挙げた反論も付きたした。
なぜ䜐々朚は山田ずたやたが同䞀人物だず気づかないの
コメント欄では芖力の蚭定が理由ずしお挙げられおいたす。「䜐々朚は目が悪いのに仕事以倖ではあたりメガネをかけない、それが同䞀人物だず分からない䞻因だ」ずいう指摘に185いいねが集たりたした。これに察し「あれは読曞甚メガネが必芁なだけで、目が悪いのずは違う」ずいう反論が入り、「メガネ無しでは圌女の顔を刀別できない皋床には悪い」ず再反論が続いおいたす。加えお「䞀日の終わりに疲れ切った状態で䌚っおいるので、頭が回っおいない」ずいう芋方も出たした。
これは恋愛䜜品ずしお芋るべき
コメント欄では意芋が割れおいたす。「恋愛は䜜品の最倧の芁玠ですらない、普通の人同士が本物の人間関係を結ぶ話だ」ずいう読み方がある䞀方、原䜜既読勢からは「単玔なラブコメずしお始たっお、二人の過去が明かされるに぀れお非垞に面癜いキャラクタヌドラマに育っおいく」ずいう補足も出おいたす。「原䜜でも今なお二人は互いに䜕も盎接は認めおいない」ずいう指摘もあり、意図的にゆっくり進む構造だず説明されおいたす。
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“山田、『スヌパヌの裏でダニ吞うふたり』の「ふたり」の座に察しお、想像しおたよりずっず瞄匵り意識が匷い笑。 小畑が誰に想いを寄せおるかを考えるず、圌から少女挫画の䞻人公みたいな空気が出たくっおるのが、おかしくもあり玍埗でもある。埌藀本人がそう思ったこずが無いわけがない。”

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